But then again when Superman puts on a pair of plain eyeglassesLois Lane, or anyone else fails to recognize him as Clark Kent! Congratulations. Bill is still even denying he knows what Zeigler is talking about till Zeigler says "I was there at the house. He was a master ofthatslight of hand stuff. ), Stalepie writes:"the only dreams in the movie are the one that Alice tells to Billand then Bill "daydreams' (thinks about) her having sex with thatsailor. Isn't that - again - amazing; except that you're not even unfortunateenough to have a mindless head, given the large quantities ofbubblewrap - and nothing else - between your ears take care, MrKelpless. And isn't this the mistake that many of the film'scritics made, reading Ziegler's story as 'ruining' the mystery,desublimating the film's narrative by means of an all-neat-and-tidydenouement? Eyes Wide Shut is a 1999 erotic mystery psychological drama film directed, produced and co-written by Stanley Kubrick. But he still wasn't sure after reading the news story, or even aftervisiting the morgue, as his disbelief at Ziegler's explanationindicated. How manypayments of $19.99 was that, again?-- "History is a lie agreed upon." And didn't Ziegler subsequently admit that the Somerton peopleonly learned of Bill's identity as a result of becoming suspicious ofhis manner of arrival and the costume-rental receipt in his coatpocket? that Bill first makes this connection, or at least, has> it confirmed by someone else (Ziegler)", > Ditto. > First of all, Mandy must have felt some connection with Bill since he was > showing her concern and kindness in the Bathroom. It's not like > he is going to voice all his thoughts.>>>, >> >>>>>> But which 'party' is Bill referring to? The movie is based on the 1920's novella Dream Storyand Kubrick developed the project for decades, and once considered a slightly more comedic take with Steve Martin in the lead role. Well I hope you see now that this is clear after reading the dialogue. If he were> Ziegler, wouldn't he instead be going out of his way to privately> communicate with Bill, to get Bill out of Somerton as quickly as> possible in order to avoid any possible trouble (and as Ziegler> subsequently admits, Bill's gate-crashing 'made me look like a> complete fool')? AmericanCinematographer did some thing on the lighting or something in thismovie when it came out, but David Mullen who used to post here (whenthis place was even worse) could answer like anything. Yes, the uncertainty about the identities of the women is Structuralto the film's splintered narrative. I think it is clear he was referring to the Somerton party. The (unnamed) woman in the mask who warns Doctor Cruise is the same woman who ends up dead in the morgue. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ceremony/orgy. 2. And how does Bill know that a cape and a mask was appropriate attire? : I like the Ninth Gate alot and have watched it numerous times but it's quite. Regardless of the different actresses in the credits, what I see is that the woman at the ceremony, who redeems him, apparently the "mysterious woman," has a small freckle/mole on her chest about 2 inches to her left side of center, above her breasts, which I think, can also be seen slightly on the corpse. Now that's out of the way, a brief introduction. >> First of all, Mandy must have felt some connection with Bill since he >> was showing her concern and kindness in the Bathroom.>, > Bill in that scene was simply behaving as a (not very) professional> doctor; and he seemed just as concerned about Ziegler's anxiety than> about Mandy's actual wellbeing. Somerton could hardly be >> >>>>>> described (and>, >> certainly not by Bill) as a 'party.'<<<<<<<<<<<. These ceremonies must have been a big customenr for his former patient. -- Steven L.Email: [email protected] the NOSPAM before replying to me. This is Eyes Wide Shut revisited. Well at least you're ostensibly modest enough to acknowledge yourunfamiliarity with such a concept, but then you proceed to betray yourdumb, sniggering agenda by perpetuating your ignorance with adismissive, anti-intellectual fart: > My extra-fat dictionary yields the> following: "rhi'zome, n. A rootlike stem under or along the ground,> ordinarily in a horizontal position, which usually sends out roots from> from its lower surface and leafy shoots from its upper surface.". The "over the rainbow" remark earlier at Zeigler's party was already a suggestion for Bill to think of his patient who owned "Rainbow Fashions." And the redeemer's pubic hair is also trimmed the same. In contrast to the Ziegler-Bill poolroom scene clearing up allambiguities (Ziegler's seeming 'commonsensical' and desublimating'explanation' of the Somerton ritual), as many have complained in thepast, this scene instead multiplies and amplifies the uncertainties.Ziegler in this scene, as in earlier ones, seams to be simultaneouslysaying two contradictory things - a deadlock of entrapment: he triesto completely shut down the question surrounding the extent to whichthe whole Somerton ritual was 'merely' a theatrical 'charade' byinsisting - to Bill - that it was precisely nothing more than a merecharade, a mere trivial irrelevance. -- Steven L.Email: [email protected], http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB6g66OYoKI, "Steven L." wrote in message. The Daily Planet may go under too. Bill has not made any definitive connection at that stage betweenMandy and the masked woman, only - at most - between Mandy and theAmanda from the news report, both of them having suffered drugoverdoses. He's super modern too, so his favorite movies include Jaws, Die Hard, The Thing, Ghostbusters and Batman. Perhaps itwould have worked better if there had been a photo in the newsarticle. This may indeed be the case, but within the diagetic space of the filmitself, there is absolutely no indication - other than Ziegler'sdubious contention - that Mandy is also the masked woman at Somerton.There could even have been two deaths. >on the balcony looking down> at Bill, knows that it is him and nodded to him. Imay bewrong, but I think Kubrick intended it that way. > the same time, being simple and concrete. 20 years ago today, the final masterpiece from the late, great Stanley Kubrick arrived in theaters. WebSleep Mask for Women, Eye Mask for Sleeping Blindfold Block Out Light and Relieves Dry Eyes with Extra Gel Beads Pad,Super Smooth and Flower Patterns 4.4 4.4 out of 5 stars In a case like that a pwerson would go through the various possibilities in his mind, but he was kinda busy. NG was :>the realization of that potential. Its common sense he was referring to Somerton as the party. If we speculate too far then we could say it was ALL a Charade. Ironically, that is just what power (and Ziegler)> would want you to believe - that the world of power and power elites> doesn't exist, is just all a charade anyway, that those who do> recognise the realities of social power and of desire are just> paranoid conspiracy nutters (when in fact it is those who> attribute all that occurs in the film to 'a dream' who are being> properly paranoid). > <<<<<<< after> visiting the morgue, as his disbelief at Ziegler's explanation> indicated. at the ceremony/orgy. >, but, besides that you're> not bothering, even, to use them correctly, the way that you are using them> serves to obfuscate rather than clarify your meaning. 0. If we try to go too far in figuring out the film we are left with many mysteries. No, she clearly says "sorry" to Zeigler when he says "you gave us a scare kiddo" and then Bill asks her, "How are you feeling now Mandy?" <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. What else could he call it? Bill in that scene was simply behaving as a (not very) professionaldoctor; and he seemed just as concerned about Ziegler's anxiety thanabout Mandy's actual wellbeing. > that unless they are encoded in single frames for analysis will alwasy be > a mystery. Which all suggests that Ziegler didn't actually know> about Bill's presence at Somerton until he removed his mask > <<<<<<<<<<<<. And if it's *not* supposed to be obvious, thatmeans that Polanski screwed up. Put on some headphones and listen. It is only when Ziegler respondspositively to Bill's question, "The woman at the party is the woman inthe morgue?" WebThe protagonists mask (Bill Harford, interpreted by Tom Cruise) is a Venetian mask that covers the entire face. Even had Alice found it in the cadenza, would she have recognized it as meaningful and taken it? Much of what we have seen is Bill's non-verbal reactions to all this, which is full of shock and bewilderment. Rather, he> is beginning to SUSPECT that the body might be that of the masked> woman, a suspician that leads him to look long and hard at her up> close in the morgue. > >>>>>> But which 'party' is Bill referring to? At what point do we decide whether Corpse Mandy's very slight, single frame, mini-wink and subsequent eye movement was intended? It is as if he Wanted, as if hedesired, compelled, it to be so again, its at two - simultaneousbut contradictory - levels (as ALWAYS in many of Kubrick's films -like in The Shining: are the spectral ghosts 'real' or is Jack etcimagining them? at the> ceremony/orgy. But the worst thing is your silly and smug arrogance. One of the most fascinating feature films ever made, the revered auteurs final effort is notorious in every sense of the word. If it'ssupposed to be obvious, then why is it treated as such a great revelation,and why is a character who is presented as being reasonably intelligentso dense as not to see it? I'm your Mutineer~ - Warren Zevon- -. Ironically, that is just what power (and Ziegler)would want you to believe - that the world of power and power elitesdoesn't exist, is just all a charade anyway, that those who dorecognise the realities of social power and of desire are justparanoid conspiracy nutters (when in fact it is those whoattribute all that occurs in the film to 'a dream' who are beingproperly paranoid). Orgy? In one of the final scenes, Bill comes home and as he comes to bed he sees Alice (Nicole Kidman) sleeping next to the same Venetian mask he wore at the party. Padraig has been writing about film online since 2012, when a friend asked if he'd like to contribute the occasional review or feature to their site. The point, however, is that even if all three female'characters' are the same woman (and so, effectively, the samecharacter), this serves to set up even more contradictions, not tomention buying in to Ziegler's warped, patriarchal world. WebThe masked woman in the secret party appears to be Mandy (Amanda Curran), who overdosed on speedball in the movies opening, and Bill revived her. He discovers an underground sexual group and attends one of their meetings -- and quickly discovers that he is in over his head. --alt.flame Special Forces"All successful software gets changed." Somerton could hardly be >>>>>> described (andcertainly not by Bill) as a 'party.'<<<<<<<<<<<. Of course, Bill didn't 'know' - at least, not in any objective orcrystal-clear empirical sense. Tragically it was the director's final film with Kubrick dying less than a week after screening an incomplete cut for the studio and its stars. Take another listen. It's profoundly, structurally, indeterminate >>> 1. so drugged out as to have been clearly incapable of making sense ofanything and 2. never actually spoke (just some unintelligiblemumbling),<<<. Much of what we have seen is Bill's non-verbal reactions to > all this, which is full of shock and bewilderment. Being "all a Charade," doesn't mean it was all a dream. How doesshe know this? Carolin Ruwe, in her book Symbols in Stanley Kubrick's Movie 'Eyes Wide Shut', argues that the mask is the prime symbol of the film. WebSynopsis. Mandy was not the same woman. for the morgue scene but it is still meant to be the same Mandy. Let's get out of here.You're my witness. >>He also must have recognized the voice, considering that her voice is >>somewhat deep and throaty with a tinge of distinctive accent. They're not 'big words', just words you are clearly unfamiliar with,apparently, words you'd therefore gleefully ridicule precisely becauseof your ignorance of them, it seems; but rather than gracefully admitthis, you instead attempt to denigrate the poster for having the gallto use words that challenge your smugonautic and myopic pomposity. The lost of public phones booths will kill off Superman, Dr. Who, and Colin Farrell roles. Why would he demand that she take off> her mask if this were so? The lower part is made of paper-mache, while the upper one Ha ha hah, ha ha hah! at the >> ceremony/orgy.>, > Again, how is it 'clearly' the same voice?>. What a mish mash of mentalmasturbation that is..", " Psycho-semi-freudian-lacanisn-junkie-marxist babbling. What a mish mash of mental masturbation that is.. Psycho-semi-freudian-lacanisn-junkie-marxist babbling. The most obvious answer is Alice found the mask and left it out as a way to let Bill know she knew something was going on. If he wereZiegler, wouldn't he instead be going out of his way to privatelycommunicate with Bill, to get Bill out of Somerton as quickly aspossible in order to avoid any possible trouble (and as Zieglersubsequently admits, Bill's gate-crashing 'made me look like acomplete fool')? Alot was going on, he had to figure it out. Some will sink but we will float.Grab your coat. People and Masks: The Meaning of Eyes Wide Shut The genre of Stanley Kubricks last film, based on the well-known story of the Austrian A. Schnitzler, The Tom Cruise in the Masked Ball ritual scene from Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece Eyes Wide Shut with Jocelyn Pook's haunting score filling the temple. He only ultimately accepts Ziegler's account because itgives him a convenient alibi (as well as because of Ziegler's powerfulposition - Bill is Ziegler's man, obeying his orders, subscribing tothe demands and realities of Ziegler's world). Are you suggesting that the people running Somerton would let thewomen there know that there was an interloper? WebEyes Wide Shut. The woman who had tried to warn Bill intervenes and insists on redeeming him, at an undisclosed personal cost. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. "you are going to need some rehab," she says, >> "I know.">. because Bill didn't get to see him up close like the film > audience.>, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Again, is this not another case of> 'fantasmatic inflation', of imagining this figure to be Ziegler simply> because of what we subsequently learn about him in the poolroom scene?> And why should it matter WHO this figure is, beyond being a member of> the power elite? He is not exactly voicing his thoughts. Even in the morgue he still might not have been positive, but he replays her voice in his head while looking over the body. (4) With many people using Google maps-gps/satellite views scouring the earth, his Fortress of Solitude could be exposed. Interesting, when you search for "actress" in Google image search youget mostly kind of Indian looking women, After the party that Bill & his wife attended, Bill goes off on this solitary journey without her, through the streets and roads of New York State, to have his violent and erotic adventures. -- Fred Brooks, I think I saw the "Rhizomatic" for sale on TV Late last night. I don't think there were any other dreams, although the redpool table scene always seemed the most dreamlike to me. I think this feeling of guilt and outrage at a murder, would be the first thing on his mind. I think the voice would have rung a bell and > the Newspaper story rang a bell, with the name Amanda, and of course > seeing the corpse of someone who may have sacrificed her life for him--so > he was in shock. Please either stop orshape up. Sure, but they are half-whispered utterances from a woman in adepressed, semi-conscious state after suffering a potentially lethaldrug overdose. When Bill asks what, she simply responds, "Fuck." Eyes Wide Shut developed after Stanley Kubrick read Arthur Schnitzler's Dream Story in 1968, when Kubrick was looking for a project to follow 2001: A Space Odyssey. Kubrick was interested in adapting the story, and with the help of journalist Jay Cocks, bought the filming rights to the novel. It would be odd for him to say, "orgy," or ritual, etc. The masks worn in the Eyes Wide Shut orgy scene are from Venetian carnivals; a reputation of civil disorder, moral debauchery and ritualized eroticism. ". >on the balcony looking down at Bill, knows that it is him and nodded to >him. But I agree the way it is done is brilliant and it leaves all of us unsure of everything, opening up infinite possibilites as to what it all means. > It's totally clear the "party' in this reference, is Somerton. I enjoy the > mystery entirely and will return to it over and over and could watch the > film again and again.>, >>>>>>>>>>>>> And if this firgure was Ziegler, why would he subsequently> send a naked masked woman over to Bill for his benefit? After Dr. Bill Harford's wife, Alice, admits to having sexual fantasies about a man she met, Bill becomes obsessed with having a sexual encounter. <<<<<<<<. Web .

1925 . This is the implication of Dream Storytoo - with the movie being quite faithful to the structure of the novella - though Kubrick obviously leaves this moment up to interpretation. It is odd that Bill would remember his patient he hadn't seen in at least a year, owned "Rainbow Fashions?" From his meeting with Ziegler in the poolroom, it appears that Billhas been unclear about the identity of the woman in the morgue via-a-vis Mandy and the masked woman. In the spur of the moment people might first recognize voices, subliminally. > Mandy was not the same woman. And Milich was expecting him. WebEyes Wide Shut Mask Woman - Etsy Browse a wide selection of eyes wide shut mask woman and face coverings available in various fabrics and configurations, made by a "My Sex Slave video with Chinese subtitles"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjMIROKzH7s, ZKD 788-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4N4vSijHTM, Im Treibhaus (Wesendonck Lieder) - Richard Wagner - Faynehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOhxWdGuQd4, When he claps his hands together. While Polanski is the master ofparanoia, The Ninth Gate had too many things wrong with it. Perhaps Alice was already attending these rituals and this was a way to gently break in stuffy and repressed Bill to this new found club and part of his initiation. Masks - both literal and figurative - are a major motif, and one of the most important sequences is when Bill infiltrates a masked sex party at a remote mansion, which is being held by members of high society. It is only when Ziegler respondspositively to Bill's question, "The woman at the party is the woman inthe morgue?" Which all suggests that Ziegler didn't actually knowabout Bill's presence at Somerton until he removed his mask >> If we speculate too far then we could say it was ALL a Charade. ">> "Victor what can I say. Even had Alice found it in the cadenza, would > she have recognized it as meaningful and taken it?>> Even though much was 'cleared" up there are still major mysteries here. So why didn't Bill also recognise the identity of this masked figureon the basis of his eyes? WebChords for Backward Priests, normal version of Masked Ball Eyes wide shut with lyrics. >>>>>>>>>> And why should anyone acceptanything Ziegler says, someone who contemptibly dismisses this woman(or women) as "a hooker. If he wereZiegler, wouldn't he instead be going out of his way to privatelycommunicate with Bill, to get Bill out of Somerton as quickly aspossible in order to avoid any possible trouble (and as Zieglersubsequently admits, Bill's gate-crashing 'made me look like acomplete fool')? One intriguing reading of the Eyes Wide Shutmask being on the pillow is that it's only in Bill's head as if he's exhausted by trying to hide his attempts at infidelity or true feelings from Alice, leading to an emotional breakdown. Alot was going on, he had to figure it out. Harry, you are calling him a troll for criticizing your manic, vain and pretentious word salad? --And men fancied he was dusted in gold. Bill was not yet sure it was Mandy from the bathroom, till he happened to see the news story and saw the name "Amanda," then it started to come together. I never siad Bill recognized him.we get to recognize him when we study it. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<, -- Dennis/Endyhttp://home.comcast.net/~endymion91/~I was born to rock the boat. The masked woman was played by a different actor but is the samecharacter. ANSWER. >>>>>>>>>>That would not be valuable or insightful speculation, but a totaldenial of most of what happens in the film (another variation of 'it'sall just a dream', everything being attributable to the delusions ofBill's mind, a denial of the world of social power, similar to sayingthat everything that happens to Jack Torrance in The Shining is all'in his mind'). I think the voice would have rung a bell and the Newspaper story rang a bell, with the name Amanda, and of course seeing the corpse of someone who may have sacrificed her life for him--so he was in shock. -----Richard Schultz [email protected] of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, IsraelOpinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University-----"It would have been like discussing sundials with a bat. Bill Harford doesn't really showmuch recognition in th emorgue scene. When we see the news article about dead Mandy, it says "Beauty Queen"but how did Bill know that was the same woman who ODd or helped him atthe orgy, since he never knew the real name of either? The Redeemer's voice does sound alot like Mandy's voice, both with a hint of a New York accent. It's "clear," after studying the film after many viewing. Again, how is it 'clearly' the same voice? >>>>>>>>>>>>And didn't Ziegler subsequently admit that the Somerton people> only learned of Bill's identity as a result of becoming suspicious of> his manner of arrival and the costume-rental receipt in his coat> pocket?<<<<<<<<<<<<<, > So maybe they were all wearing walkie talkies under those masks, what do, > you want me to say?..no, this IS left as a huge mystery. Apparently word of Bill's entry into the ceremony/orgy traveled fast. I am normally the last guy in the> world to criticize somebody for using big words. In Dr. Bill's "dream," the masked woman he meets (played by Abigail Good) and who he later sees dead in the morgue, is a distortion of the woman he met at the party when he was still "awake" partying with his wife. "you are going to need some rehab," she says, "I know." 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